Blog posted on: August 1, 2005

10 comments on “Database Learning

  1. Sean

    Someone uses a computer too much, I myself have hardly legible hand writting now too.

    Though I notice it looks like someone practices their signature more then their regular hand writting.

  2. Mike Hillyer

    Hey Nev, when I’m not blogging personal finance I work for MySQL. Send me an email if you ever have any questions.

  3. AcidMan

    Why re-invent the wheel man? Not sure what shopping cart software you purchased but wouldn’t it be best to just get it working, then tweak it to suit your needs? There are some great shopping cart packages out there with loads of features (sometimes too damn many!), why waste time writing your own?

  4. middle road

    Learning the backend design of web applications can be extremely useful and lucrative.

    Just curious, do you have any programming experience Nev?

    Keep up the good blogging! One of the few blogs I actually check on a reg basis.

  5. Ryan Carson

    Hi Neville,

    As a developer turned business man, I’d highly recommend that you not get mired down too much in the nitty gritty of web development.

    As your company(s) grow, this will be something that you simply outsource to a freelancer.

    The logic here is that if you’re going to bother to learn MySQL, you should probably learn PHP, which in turn, means you should learn about Apache … It’s a long slippery slope that I don’t think is worth you time!

  6. Trip

    Hey Nev,

    I enjoy your enthusiasm. You encouraged me to act on an idea I had been entertaining for years.

    Anyway, I just wanted to follow up on what Ryan was saying. There is no need to get into the nitty gritty of MySQL. Using myPHPAdmin to import and export databases is as far as you need to go IMHO. The php files simply make “calls” to the database and then display that data.

    I suggest practicing setting up some open source programs like or and learning how they call the MySQL database.

  7. Neville

    I simply want to learn BASIC MySQL so I can just understand it. I have no intentions of actually designing my own shopping cart and using it….I’m actually a terrible programmer!


  8. Erik Davis

    I think its an excellent idea. You don’t have to become a web developer to understand and appreciate some of the fundamental problems they face. I feel that in any organization if there is too much of a disparity between individual’s knowledge then this will be bad for decision making as a whole.

    That doesn’t mean any individual has to call all the shots. I’m pretty sure Nev isn’t going to turn this into a one-man show. He can outsource, he can add on new members to the team, he can use out of the box software, whatever. But the point is that without the ability to participate in a critical discourse regarding these technologies, or anything else that is vital to his business, he will not be able to put them in the proper business perspective. If you can’t do that, then you are just following hype.

    This is one of the advantages of having more people, since it really isnt feasible for an individual to know from top to bottom the details of every aspect of their business. But some foundational knowledge and the right selection of ‘experts’ to rely on, you are pretty much an expert yourself.

  9. Jon Brelig

    Nev, don’t spend the time to simply re-engineer a php/mysql shopping cart. There’s more then enough of them out there. I even have a set of script I wrote for all my e-commerce sites.

    Want to learn MySql, I say go for it. Its pretty easy and the best free open-source dbase out there – considering it’s one of the very few.

  10. Anonymous

    Nev, I’m a programmer, I do some DB, web and other kinds of stuff, basicly java, php, mysql, apache, etc. Anyhoo, I kind of agree with Ryan, really just go for the bird’s eye view if you want to understand, but otherwise you’re opening a pandora box :) There’s just so much to learn and of course everybody says “yea it’s easy” until you find you have to learn a bit of apache, than a bit of php, than a bit of javascript, etc etc. It just never stops!! Sticking to a strick circle of competences has to be the mantra these days haha, god knows its harder than ever. I’m getting pretty bored at this myself, and I like learning so imagine lol…

    Anyhow, I’m into finances a lot too, the tools that work best IMHO, coming from a programmer world and having seen many software in and out both from user and builder point of view, I’d say QUICKEN is one damn fine tool to manage your finances. Excel is the best all-around quick and dirty solution. I still use it often even though I can program most of the stuff it does by hand, sometimes I just want to be a user, not a programmer :) Then if you want to add some DB stuff Access is decent, but anyways you can get away with almost everything with excel. I’ve even did some VB programming in Excel to do some custom solutions from time to time.

    As far as shopping carts go, don’t even bother working on your own stuff, spend more time looking for a better one instead :) The one thing that people underestimate nowaydays, myself included, is the HIDDEN costs at the do-it yourself solutions. Time is the most valuable asset, not money…

    Good luck!
    Bruno D.


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